TwinTurbo.NET: Nissan 300ZX forum - More than "a few" as Gordo said, that's for sure (n/m)
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More than "a few" as Gordo said, that's for sure (n/m)
Posted by
SeedyROM
on March 04, 2008 at 6:59 PM
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How many does it take?
posted by Bezza
on March 04, 2008 at 06:25 PM
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I wonder how a sponsor would feel knowing that his ads
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ZEngineer
12:26:08 03/04/08
Checks and balances, Georgie. (n/m)
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BradZ (FL)
12:28:36 03/04/08
I was wondering the same thing. (n/m)
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Piranha(AZ)
12:31:07 03/04/08
I wonder how a forum owner would feel if one of the major
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Guapo
12:32:20 03/04/08
indeed (n/m)
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aliaZ
12:44:37 03/04/08
no offense, but he'd probably do something about it. (n/m)
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inf
13:00:58 03/04/08
like what? (n/m)
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aliaZ
19:17:17 03/04/08
remove them from being a sponser. (n/m)
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inf
01:33:13 03/05/08
that wouldn't accomplish much (n/m)
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aliaZ
09:08:03 03/05/08
So does Mike Smith own the forum or do Gregg and Damon?
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SlicktopTT
13:04:36 03/04/08
some speculation ...
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Guapo
13:23:16 03/04/08
Nobody mentioned Mike Smith
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aliaZ
13:28:23 03/04/08
NOT a good comparison >>>
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ztunerz
21:36:07 03/04/08
eh...you're right
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aliaZ
21:58:48 03/04/08
>>
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ztunerz
22:15:11 03/04/08
I dunno
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aliaZ
22:21:56 03/04/08
also...
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aliaZ
22:24:50 03/04/08
>>>
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ztunerz
08:33:22 03/05/08
impressive (n/m)
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aliaZ
09:09:36 03/05/08
They have hinted at copying the 300Degree Fuel Rails
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SeedyROM
13:28:49 03/04/08
Seems they have a sense of humour..
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spicyZ
13:38:00 03/04/08
So do the best con artists and charlitains
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SeedyROM
13:53:51 03/04/08
Nevertheles, it's an interesting social experiment
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spicyZ
13:57:55 03/04/08
Absolutely. One would assume 300d has been paid for the
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Guapo
14:03:26 03/04/08
Keyword = "assume" (n/m)
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spicyZ
14:04:52 03/04/08
That is a risk each will have to take on for themselves. (n/m)
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Guapo
14:07:12 03/04/08
The tribe has spoken. (n/m)
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spicyZ
15:04:50 03/04/08
Sure
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SeedyROM
14:11:41 03/04/08
Lemmings. Whatever bandwagon the majority happen to be on
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ENVYMYZ
15:31:57 03/04/08
In defense of Lemmings...
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Jackie
02:48:08 03/05/08
I've seen those hints too. Let them try to copy it...
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SlicktopTT
13:52:39 03/04/08
Did you even ask why Damon stopped supply briefly?
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SeedyROM
13:59:05 03/04/08
yep (n/m)
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aliaZ
14:00:09 03/04/08
Listen. You and I have both been around here a long time
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SlicktopTT
14:35:50 03/04/08
They have been getting deleted for a while now.
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en5
12:32:55 03/04/08
I was curious about that also. (n/m)
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MistressZ
12:33:09 03/04/08
They've said numerous times that all the VTDs and
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dogpile
12:35:26 03/04/08
This is a great deal of free publicity. (n/m)
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Sleeper_TTZ(SeKy)
18:28:08 03/04/08
Exactly. So they lose one or two potential customers from
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dogpile
19:58:34 03/04/08
Was the ad for the AMS rip-off manifolds?
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BigTDogg (MA)
12:42:32 03/04/08
I would feel proud to spread the lyrical genius that is
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ZEngineer
12:50:32 03/04/08
Nice! (n/m)
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nemo1080
14:44:22 03/04/08
No. (n/m)
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spicyZ
13:10:06 03/04/08
Now I'm curious... What was the ad for then?
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MixManMash
15:59:03 03/04/08
Clutch kits (n/m)
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spicyZ
16:03:22 03/04/08
RPS or DxD knock offs? (n/m)
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MixManMash
16:05:06 03/04/08
sponsorship pays for the banners you see at the top of the
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aliaZ
12:43:17 03/04/08
this is the correct answer.
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ZEngineer
12:46:29 03/04/08
To allow deletion is a conflict of interests.
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AZHeat
13:16:18 03/04/08
Z1 can pull their sponsorship if they so desire.
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aliaZ
13:57:05 03/04/08
Bingo (n/m)
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SeedyROM
13:57:44 03/04/08
yep
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Bezza
16:24:38 03/04/08
604Z has not been the same since it was sponsored.
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mscurfield
17:14:20 03/04/08
that's what I hear (n/m)
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aliaZ
17:21:05 03/04/08
604z is ghey (n/m)
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Wilks.
17:52:00 03/04/08
tsk tsk mike- are you bitter?
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inyrdrmz
23:58:30 03/04/08
no 604z wasnt created as an advertising venue
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inyrdrmz
23:51:11 03/04/08
not initially, no
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aliaZ
10:41:54 03/05/08
you're wrong. i think i would know...
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inyrdrmz
19:25:27 03/05/08
How is it conflict of interest?
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Bezza
16:48:21 03/04/08
Conflict of interests because they allow it to
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AZHeat
17:47:58 03/04/08
That would be conflict of interest
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Bezza
18:19:09 03/04/08
Special treatment because money changed hands?
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AZHeat
18:48:48 03/04/08
yep
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Bezza
19:15:04 03/04/08
that would be unethical to give sponsors
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aliaZ
18:24:24 03/04/08
That makes no sense at all. A business or club always
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AZHeat
18:43:32 03/04/08
This is a hobby site supported by sponsors, not a business
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SeedyROM
18:57:11 03/04/08
3zc is more civilized than this...
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treese88
19:19:20 03/04/08
its hard to say with how much gets deleted over there (n/m)
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aliaZ
19:32:43 03/04/08
say something bad about Z1 and POOF its gone. (n/m)
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nissanguyz32
19:52:23 03/04/08
I think it's a huge leap to say twinturbo.net is a business. (n/m)
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Dustin
19:12:12 03/04/08
doesn't matter. It takes money to keep it up. (n/m)
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AZHeat
21:15:33 03/04/08
? My car takes money to keep it up.
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TT XTZ
12:03:14 03/05/08
exactly (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
13:35:07 03/04/08
This has been covered over and over its not the MODs
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5280Z_nightstalker
12:51:23 03/04/08
wow, thanks for clearing that up for me...*sigh*
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ZEngineer
12:55:32 03/04/08
I am sure probably 50% of people here would never buy AMS
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5280Z_nightstalker
13:02:46 03/04/08
I wouldn't be so sure.
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robo (sebring1970)
13:20:08 03/04/08
Seems pretty much bang on to me Robo. (n/m)
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spicyZ
13:22:54 03/04/08
Sad but very true
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SeedyROM
14:16:10 03/04/08
Who? (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
14:43:33 03/04/08
Re: Who?
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SeedyROM
15:09:27 03/04/08
I would tell those guys to bring their product to market
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SlicktopTT
14:49:50 03/04/08
Remember when you posted that last year? Didn't learn did ya
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SeedyROM
15:05:43 03/04/08
I work at a law firm that gets patents, trade marks etc..
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SlicktopTT
15:39:04 03/04/08
No, your head is up your ass.
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Spongerider :)
16:11:04 03/04/08
Occupation: CPA
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SeedyROM
19:07:52 03/04/08
Yep, getting a patent is money and time consuming.
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ZCulture
19:44:07 03/04/08
Where else would you want to prevent the sale? I would
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SlicktopTT
19:53:18 03/04/08
Proviso you can defend it.
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ZCulture
20:01:05 03/04/08
Yes. I am their VP of Finance for the firm and 13 other
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SlicktopTT
19:50:38 03/04/08
Patent is really not an option.
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Bezza
20:08:45 03/04/08
Pseudo-Ethical. That is the perfect way to say it.
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Sleeper_TTZ(SeKy)
18:16:51 03/04/08
Rofl.. come on n00b... (n/m)
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spicyZ
13:11:08 03/04/08
when did the general forum turn into a girls gossip corner?
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volcomstone550
15:16:58 03/04/08
Haha x2 (n/m)
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nissanguyz32
17:03:40 03/04/08
nothing gets by you. (n/m)
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Spee
23:17:50 03/04/08
Just like the free market economy allows AMS to pursue
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robo (sebring1970)
13:11:15 03/04/08
Who said anything about AMS? The ads are for clutches..
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spicyZ
13:12:41 03/04/08
Your going to call me a noob but you cant even figure it out
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5280Z_nightstalker
13:16:35 03/04/08
lol! You should try sitting on your hands for a bit. Really. (n/m)
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spicyZ
13:19:03 03/04/08
I dont know what your deal is i am not here to fight or say
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5280Z_nightstalker
13:27:05 03/04/08
All the pissed off members here about AMS but not
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AZHeat
13:21:17 03/04/08
If Mike spent as much time as we do on this forum
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aliaZ
13:32:27 03/04/08
Mike Smith is an intelligent person
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TT XTZ
13:59:59 03/04/08
His work speaks for itself.
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AbsolutZ (OH)
14:04:34 03/04/08
As I said before, if that is the case, then it's bull ____
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BigTDogg (MA)
14:11:41 03/04/08
You don't really think that's the only reason do you?
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SeedyROM
14:26:30 03/04/08
Which was referenced here...
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BigTDogg (MA)
14:39:39 03/04/08
So you're saying that's not reason enough. (n/m)
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SeedyROM
14:57:12 03/04/08
To VTD classified posts of a forum sponsor... no
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BigTDogg (MA)
15:41:00 03/04/08
What if they weren't a sponsor?
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SeedyROM
18:55:06 03/04/08
Now were talking downward spiral...
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BigTDogg (MA)
20:12:16 03/04/08
the fact that they are a sponsor is irrelevant. (n/m)
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Spee
23:36:37 03/04/08
See above (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
09:01:48 03/05/08
you're an idiot (n/m)
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Spee
23:29:41 03/04/08
Which begs two good questions....
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LJZTT
16:49:31 03/04/08
As many votes as Greg and Damon think is sufficient. (n/m)
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Guapo
16:53:31 03/04/08
16 votes to delete a post & obviously that isn't an accurate
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Russell@Z1
22:52:41 03/04/08
sadly, the past actions with AMS and your relationship
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Halo Z
10:48:34 03/05/08
Why don't you explain this "reality" of yours then?
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SeedyROM
11:22:23 03/05/08
Its because Z1 is not part of "The cool guy club"
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Madhatter10-6
13:43:54 03/04/08
What don't you understand?
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SeedyROM
13:52:29 03/04/08
Re: What don't you understand?
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Madhatter10-6
14:03:59 03/04/08
It's unfortunate that I have to say it
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SeedyROM
14:08:19 03/04/08
i get it now!
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Madhatter10-6
14:18:45 03/04/08
lol, don't worry, your eyes will adjust soon enough :) (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
14:53:55 03/04/08
LoL!
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Spongerider :)
16:32:35 03/04/08
nice collection of bookmarks (n/m)
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ghostinator (fl)
16:17:57 03/04/08
Bookmarked (n/m)
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Audicon
16:40:58 03/04/08
I totally agree about it being a free market and I think
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na300zx (OH)
13:52:52 03/04/08
**SOME** members are VTD ing posts
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LJZTT
21:48:36 03/04/08
Newsflash: Read 1/3 of these posts and gain some insight
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BigTDogg (MA)
13:55:29 03/04/08
Re: Its because Z1 is not part of "The cool guy club"
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Spongerider :)
16:19:51 03/04/08
Sponsors never controled our Classifieds. You new here?
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SeedyROM
13:49:50 03/04/08
^^ Read that Madhatter
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na300zx (OH)
13:57:13 03/04/08
Just to clarify, I am referring to the beginning about
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na300zx (OH)
22:27:55 03/04/08
WOW, They are now Posting MS manifolds and 300 degree fuel
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kwun
14:15:33 03/04/08
It's called a "fishing expedition" (n/m)
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SeedyROM
14:18:32 03/04/08
I don't understand what the deal is.
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TriniTT
14:49:16 03/04/08
Now they are even violating the two posts per day rule :) (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
14:51:28 03/04/08
Good, every time I do a search in classifieds I always
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Ashman2k2
14:57:19 03/04/08
and they told me my vote wouldnt count! lol (n/m)
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MOZZ
14:59:28 03/04/08
they have no feelings (n/m)
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moxie (SF)
15:05:11 03/04/08
I like having the right to vote.
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datzun
15:22:24 03/04/08
VTF under FAQ "how increase your hit count" ^^^
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Cap927(Boston)
15:47:07 03/04/08
you do realize ... um ... nah, of course you do. (n/m)
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Guapo
15:56:55 03/04/08
yes I do, and I hope this whole post gets deleted
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Cap927(Boston)
16:12:39 03/04/08
I'm not convinced. (n/m)
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TriniTT
17:43:35 03/04/08
sometimes when I'm alone at night
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ZEngineer
16:36:55 03/04/08
you are one sick puppy, but I love ya!! ;) (n/m)
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Cap927(Boston)
17:00:37 03/04/08
This has no effect on George's hitcount (n/m)
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aliaZ
17:09:34 03/04/08
It is wrong to hinder free trade and flow of information.
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Gordo 93TT Daytona
16:40:26 03/04/08
Where do you draw the line Gordo? (n/m)
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Guapo
16:50:24 03/04/08
I don't know where the line is drawn. But, I am confident
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Gordo 93TT Daytona
17:25:03 03/04/08
Some think the right thing is already being done. (n/m)
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Guapo
18:01:21 03/04/08
Steve, you may be right. But I wish there was a way for
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Gordo 93TT Daytona
20:39:26 03/04/08
indeed, but sometimes fighting the good fight isn't pretty (n/m)
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Guapo
20:46:13 03/04/08
Touche... (n/m)
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Gordo 93TT Daytona
20:53:02 03/04/08
2nd (n/m)
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LJZTT
16:53:50 03/04/08
Well said and so true.....this had just gotten too out
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Gold Z
16:54:19 03/04/08
Very well stated, couldn't have done it better. Thanks. (n/m)
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Yoshi
17:37:27 03/04/08
Are you a lemming, or someone who is willing to stand up for
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boileralum
17:46:43 03/04/08
Are Damon and Greg weak for accepting Z1's
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Barry (NJ)
18:09:17 03/04/08
Weak? No. However their sponsorship buys ad space at the top
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Guapo
18:17:32 03/04/08
I don't thik they are weak either, and I don't think Z1
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Barry (NJ)
18:44:02 03/04/08
Another question...
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Barry (NJ)
19:07:25 03/04/08
A lot of the threads discussing it were deleted
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SeedyROM
19:14:07 03/04/08
NIMBYism at its finest
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aliaZ
18:12:04 03/04/08
maybe that's the problem
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LJZTT
22:04:17 03/04/08
what we're witnessing here is the Walmartization
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aliaZ
22:17:34 03/04/08
Look I agree, but if the market will bear a demand for those
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LJZTT
22:28:20 03/04/08
unfortunately, "thanks" won't pay the bills
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aliaZ
22:41:50 03/04/08
How many does it take?
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Bezza
18:25:25 03/04/08
More than "a few" as Gordo said, that's for sure (n/m) -
SeedyROM
18:59:35 03/04/08
It's still a minority when compared to the # of active
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spicyZ
19:14:04 03/04/08
Sure, but we don't own the site do we?
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SeedyROM
19:16:28 03/04/08
There's really no easy answer
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spicyZ
19:25:49 03/04/08
VTD is not that much of a big deal even if it is wrong.
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Bezza
19:46:56 03/04/08
Protest is just as important as censorship.
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Bezza
19:19:13 03/04/08
There's no shortage of other forms of protest around here (n/m)
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spicyZ
19:27:24 03/04/08
I believe it's 3. (n/m)
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BlackholeZ
19:00:31 03/04/08
Those 3 "X" marks do not in any way indicate the number (n/m)
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SeedyROM
19:02:50 03/04/08
Well good, I always thought 3 votes was awfully small.
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BlackholeZ
19:17:51 03/04/08
Nah, it's easy to make that assumption. I did the same
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SeedyROM
19:27:13 03/04/08
This is a private website, not the United States of Z1
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SeedyROM
19:24:59 03/04/08
Who's "standing by and accepting it"?
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spicyZ
19:31:14 03/04/08
exactly^ (n/m)
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LJZTT
22:10:17 03/04/08
I think you're on the wrong conversation dude.
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SeedyROM
23:52:52 03/04/08
Please point out where I was "bitching and complaining"
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spicyZ
07:59:02 03/05/08
You have been lumped into that group, for whatever reasons
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SeedyROM
19:17:46 03/05/08
I don't get this :/
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ZDUCTIV
16:50:17 03/04/08
Re: I don't get this :/
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SeedyROM
19:04:04 03/04/08
This thread is large. That is all. (n/m)
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en5
17:14:39 03/04/08
Yeah, not sure why Z1 continues to support this site w/ that
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Yoshi
17:34:55 03/04/08
Go to 300ZXClub.com where the users have ZERO say
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SeedyROM
18:50:20 03/04/08
borg collective
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aliaZ
18:56:01 03/04/08
so if it just comes down to numbers..
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Halo Z
18:19:50 03/04/08
2nd (n/m)
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Zski
19:34:36 03/04/08
Everything seems to be working just right
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Jonez
18:30:27 03/04/08
Can't we all just get along! C'mon peeps! (n/m)
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Turbonium 300Zx
18:48:27 03/04/08
am I missing something? I don't see where Z1 is selling the
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S.Watson
18:57:58 03/04/08
That's a small part of it we're guessing but
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SeedyROM
19:01:42 03/04/08
here is a little insight
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aliaZ
19:10:22 03/04/08
I tend to agree with Robo in the fact that there is a large
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S.Watson
19:31:31 03/04/08
Is the limit 2 listings per day in the classifieds? Maybe
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Neogenesis
20:35:14 03/04/08
he should feel like an ass for bringing it on himself.
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Spee
23:05:12 03/04/08
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